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Mark Hayes's avatar

This is awful. I'm embarrassed for my country. We owe this man an apology and a new boat.

Declan's avatar

I'd bet this was a deliberate move instigated by Trump to first, act as distraction from Epstein files and to start a war vs. Canada. Canada must respond. This is a typical display of dominance by drumpf.

Julie's avatar

I’m sure it was. This was another one of their “testing the waters” (no pun intended) to see what they can get away with. Add the Coast Guard to the list of agencies that can’t be trusted anymore.

Declan's avatar

good point....may Canada hold fast & elbows up!

Gutterdandy's avatar

Let's see those elbows, PM Carney! Or no?

BrendaB's avatar

They keep trying to poke the bear. They know the "imaginary border" and Fentanyl rhetoric is bullshit and are getting nowhere with it, so they're trying to poke at Canada on the water. They're also trying to get to our Northern Provinces.

Kathi Ruel's avatar

😢🤬😢🤬😢🤬😢🤬😢🤬

Susan J's avatar

Absolutely 👋❣️

Teri Gelini's avatar

I feel the exact same way!

Allan Matthews's avatar

It would be reasonable as well for his supervising officer to face charges for allowing this to proceed to the point of arrest, and for the poor guy to be gifted a large award of $100,000.00 U.S. or more for distress, wrongful arrest and imprisonment. Any practicing lawyers available to take this case? 🇺🇸🤔

Wendy E's avatar

Wow! That is actually kind of chilling to think that they hit his boat overturning it. Carney should turn the US into ICC!! I'm sorry that our government sucks ass! We hate it here too!

Susan J's avatar

Yes ! Where is the ICC ? Why hasn’t there been international outrage over this administration’s human trafficking ? What else would you label Trump’s actions of sending people he deems undesirable to a country other than their country of origin against their will. It is natural for him, he started with young girls for pleasure, and now he has escalated to everyone he doesn’t want to look at ! His “ALLIGATOR ALCATRAZ should be condemned by the international human rights community, oh but yeah, the US was criticized during his first term and our American ambassador to the committee walked out ! The Mango Mussolini dishes it out with glee, but the weak, paranoid man child lashes out like a wounded beast at even a suggestion of impropriety. I hope that our northern neighbors react swiftly, and decisively, even if they have to mine the border.

Wendy E's avatar

Yes! He needs to be turned in for every single hateful, cruel and unnecessary thing he is doing. I believe it's in the Netherlands and they do have a website!

Chuck May's avatar

The Carney Government must demand an apology and continue to beef up its own coast guard! Also, the gentleman in question should sue the hair extensions and Rolex off DHS Secretary Kristi Noem!

Gutterdandy's avatar

I'll be very disappointed in PM Mark "Elbows Up" Carney if his government ignores this international incident.

Eleanor's avatar

Absolutely harrowing and inexcusable, even if he WERE in American waters—which as a fisherman with decades of experience, he presumably was not. Our treatment of our neighbors and former friends is absolutely disgusting, and, I agree, this incident must be addressed by the American and Canadian governments immediately.

joAn's avatar

I am sickened and deeply horrified! Our boundary waters are no longer safe. On the other side, in the San Juan Islands, Washington where I live, a couple weeks ago, a resident fisherman had a similar experience... unfortunately his visa had expired and he still is in ICE custody. Whatever the Canadian government can do to demand justice to stop these police state tactics will help us all!!

I never thought I'd be begging other nations for lifeline help because of our government's inhumanity... 💔

Uncle Paul's avatar

My shadow side would see the next U.S. Coast Guard dinghy to illegally enter Canadian waters sunk, in place and marked, with their crew taken safely into Canadian custody without being cable-tied, because doing this to anyone while ‘at sea’ would place them at an elevated risk of peril should they end up in the water. Of course, any weapon recovered would have to be dealt with by first being unloaded, then the weapon itself to be closely inspected, cleaned and rendered temporarily inoperable (A good use of cable-ties, in my opinion).

My lighter side would see this for what it is: a deliberate provocation toward escalation by the United States in order to provoke and to see the matter dealt with though diplomatic channels.

It’s very important to me that Canada must not do nothing.

Michael Ann Ochs's avatar

This is another distraction. Don't fall for it. There will be more. Keep focusing on what he is so afraid of

Donna Dupont's avatar

WTF!!! None of this shit is ok, and we need serious help from all allies to stop this regime dead in its tracks 😤😤😡😡😡

SOS❗️

I’m not joking

Cathy McCarthy's avatar

In some countries this would be considered an act of war! What about the Quebec government? Do they just ignore this too? What does it portend for 🇨🇦/🇺🇸American citizens? Can we now expect to be detained by ICE?

Cathy McCarthy's avatar

If Quebec wants to appear to be a sovereign country within Canada, then it needs to act like one. This was an act of war against one of its citizens as well as a 🇨🇦 citizen. It can’t demand to be treated as such when it comes to money and then hide behind the 🇨🇦flag when a crime it perpetrated on a Quebecois by another sovereign country. Doing so is disingenuous as well as cowardice.

Leu2500's avatar

Ottawa. Canada’s federal government is in Ottawa. Although Quebec is probably pleased with the vote for sovereignty.

BrendaB's avatar

Ignore this too? What else has the govt. ignored? If you're American than you should already be worried about ICE as they seem to be 'not so picky' as to who they pick up. As Canadians, we're catching on hence not crossing the US border. There should be a billboard just before the borders going into the States on the Canadian side that state, "Enter At Your Own Risk"!

Sue's avatar

The excuse that "he rammed our boat, we didn't ram his" is vintage ICE. A U.S. Congresswoman is facing criminal charges because as she was attempting to inspect an ICE "detention center" an officer shouldered her aside -- and then accused her of "body-slamming" him. But anyway, an excuse for Trump to rant about terrorist fishermen trying to catch our Great Patriot American trout and slamming " dumb, failed, low IQ Mark Carney" will make a few hours'distraction from Epstein.

Wendymae's avatar

If what the Coast Guard said was true, he would have been criminally charged and not released, instead of this after the fact made up story. Does ICE now think their 100 mile border zone extends 100 miles into another country?

In saner times someone accidentally crossing this line would have been asked politely to go back into their country's waters. This really is some insane shit.

Sue's avatar

It's been observed by some others that the compass and GPS readings of the Coast Guard boat clearly show that the fishing boat was above the 45th parallel, although close to it. They're busted. That's why they let him go relatively quickly (by Trump-era standards, anyway!)

Cath Millage's avatar

Exactly! Could somebody with experience of boats explain if a small fishing boat ramming a larger Coast Guard vessel as we see in some of our border lakes, could physically cause itself, i.e., the fishing boat, to flip/ capsize?

Some nautical experience leads me to believe that it would be more likely to happen the other way around. Wouldn't it definitely be more possible, as impact with the higher hull and much larger wake of the coast guard vessel, to cause turbulence, thus swamping and flipping the fishing boat, as the Coast Guard is probably trained to do? 🛥️🌊🚤

And of course, who has the greatest reason to lie? ❤️🇨🇦

Allan Matthews's avatar

Thanks for clarifying your comment. Of course Trump thinks there are no Canadian waters, just ‘51st state’ waters. 🙄

Allan Matthews's avatar

You can accuse Mark Carney of some things but definitely not a low IQ. Regrettably there is no video of this incident as it would have been a perfect example of U.S. illegal activity in Canadian waters. 🇨🇦

Sue's avatar

Oh, I agree completely, but "low IQ" is the sort of grade-school epithet Trump loves to hurl at people who won't give him everything he wants. In Carney's case, what Trump wants is all of Canada. I was parodying Trump's pompous idiocy, as Gavin Newsom has been doing with his hilarious posts and memes. Granted, Newsom is a lot beetter at it than I am.

One Canadians Perspective's avatar

One more thing our government must do is put more Coast Guard resources in Canadian waters to prevent the scum from slithering across the border and kidnapping Canadian citizens. If an American Coast Guard boat is found in Canadian waters, our Coast Guard needs to escort it out of Canada, politely, of course. America needs to learn it can't push Canada or Canadians around; it will not be tolerated! They can do whatever they want in their country, in ours, not at all!

Michael Ann Ochs's avatar

As an American...no need to be polite at this point

Robert Stephens's avatar

Mark Carney should be filing a complaint about an alien invasion of Canada by a foreign government. There should be sanctions placed, not only on ICE, but on President Trump as well as Kristi Noem, who was probably cosplaying as an Olympic swimmer at the time.

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Michael Ann Ochs's avatar

This is Trump trying to muddy the water (no pun intended) for his base which he taught to hate Trudeau. I know, stupid but that is his stupid game.

Gutterdandy's avatar

Dean admitted that the "Trudeau / Carney" reference was in error, and it has now been changed to the correct "Carney government."

Bob Healy's avatar

Just another incident that allows Trump to distract from the REAL problem. As for my Quebec friend, America wonders why we are “dam mad” for the behaviour of the president

Jocelyn Millis's avatar

Going fifteen kilometres into Canadian waters and ramming a Canadian fisherman nearly drowning him to arrest him is deliberately dangerous. What sort of playground bully tactics is the American Coast Guard playing around with here?

Canada should file an International Case against the USA in the World Court. No one should come into Canada to harass and arrest Canadians. This is wrong!🇨🇦

Julie's avatar

Dean please ask your government contacts to implore Carney to react. Among other things they need to expel the US “ambassador” who as you’ve said before is an instigator. Don’t let this go unanswered.

Gutterdandy's avatar

Easy to say "elbows up" -- but harder to actually do it. Where is Carney on this international incident?

Michael Ann Ochs's avatar

Carney is smart not to react to Trump's distraction immediately by dealing with this now. I trust he will deal with it at the right time when it gets the best result that extracts some pain from Trump and company. Don't bother with US ambassador

Gutterdandy's avatar

Carney gets the benefit of the doubt for now. But he can't always just let things go and be defended by people saying, "don't worry, he's just playing 4 dimensional chess." Elbows up or not?

BrendaB's avatar

Dean doesn't have to ask the government anything. Just because the American Government is complicit doesn't mean Canada's is. Carney will be on this and gather all the details before saying or doing anything, especially when it comes to any kind of charges. It's best to get things straight before going off half-cocked. I agree about getting Hoekstra out of Canada.

Leu2500's avatar

As an American, I apologize for the actions of my government. There was no call for this.

& those Coast Guard employees were stupid. Mr. Lallemand likely had a cell phone with him, which is an independent 3rd party source of which nation’s waters he was in. Although your reporting indicates that it wasn’t even close & it was the US that violated international boundaries.

So sad to see the US being the aggressor in violating international borders.

& I keep saying: just another example of why people on the left want to “defend the police.” We can’t even say this is an example of law enforcement going rogue. Nope; they are doing exactly what the federal government wants them to do.

Sue's avatar

Alas, if that cell phone went into the water it's probably on the lake floor now.

BrendaB's avatar

The US is an aggressor in many things. Past and present.

LJ57's avatar

I used to respect the US Coast Guard. Those times have gone.

Mian Fisher's avatar

We should remember basic social skills. America is overrun with misbehaving preschoolers and teenagers in adult bodies with permission from the sinking stinking regime to do their worst.