It is amazing the extent politicians will go to deflect the electorate, Danielle is the subject of an RCMP probe that could have her charged and the government forced to pay for the firing of the CEO of Alberta Health for speaking out about the corruption
“But Smith’s government has amplified the voices of radical groups like Take Back Alberta, appointed conspiracy theorists, and openly flirted with ideas straight out of the U.S. Republican fringe.”
And she’s funding their BS by dropping the # of signatures needed for a referendum question just conveniently below what they’ve already got lined up up.
Tens of millions of Alberta taxpayer dollars to be spent fanning the flames of these Moros’ fever dreams, in a futile effort, but also in a way that distracts from her ongoing malfeasance.
Does this sound like anyone?
(Rhymes with dump, chump, lump, stump, plump, or wetanyahu, even)
It is amazing the extent politicians will go to deflect the electorate, Danielle is the subject of an RCMP probe that could have her charged and the government forced to pay for the firing of the CEO of Alberta Health for speaking out about the corruption
Couple of questions from a typical American. The last I heard about separatism in Canada was about Quebec forming their own country. What happened to that movement, which seems to have quieted down the past few years? Is there still a Quebec separation movement and did the demands that Canada make French a co-language to English prompt the Albertans to want out?
Alberta can have Wyoming, Idaho, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana and become a MAGA country. In exchange, the rest of the United States can become part of Canada.
It’s quieter, now more of a stick that gets brandished every once in awhile, as they flex their muscles *within* 🇨🇦.
Trump + MapleMAGA/Conservative Party head moron Pierre “the paperboy” Poilievre (who lost his Ottawa seat this past election 😹 — now hoping to win a “safe” seat … in rural Alberta, of course) made the choice easier for Québécois this time too: the Bloc Québécois haemorrhaged as much to the Liberals as the lefty New Democrats.
They get it, it seems: Québec is better off in a Canada that they can work within, as Dean says.
I’m sure the traitorous 1/4 or fewer in Alberta are aggrieved by the “imposition” of French — but it’s not like they’re forced to engage I. French, ever, bar a bit in public schools (I assume).
Federal civil servants (most if not all) across the country are required to be or to become functionally bilingual — but again, it’s not like these bozos want to work for the feds, as they want out.
Really, it’s just another grievance, among a few loud & annoying/stubborn fools.
Quebec politicians bring up separation when they are in trouble in the polls. Something to get people riled about. People in the millennial age group and younger don’t really have the frame of reference that older people have in terms of leaving Canada, I don’t think it’s high on their list of priorities.
Basically it was the older Quebecois who wanted to separate. As the population grew and more younger people moved into Quebec politics Separation became less and less important, because those people recognized what Quebec would lose if they did separate. Neither the US or France were at all interested in helping or supporting them, so they would have to go it alone and this article has already mentioned the costs associated with separation. Plus more people realized that within Confederation they would prosper AND have a voice in the federal government.
While there is still a group in Quebec that are one trick ponies and bring up separating at every opportunity, it does not have wide support in the province now at all.
Most Albertans I know are damn proud of being Canadian. They don’t want a Premier, a religious leader, or a pissed off venting retired oil worker separating Alberta from the rest of Canada.
We don’t have a port to ship goods anywhere and POTUS 47 knows how to take and rape.
If we thought throwing our lot in with Americans would make our life better we better get ready for open carry laws on Alberta streets. Or having our young people drafted to fight in Iran.
Albertans would get similar status to Puerto Rico. Few people in larger towns that surround Edmonton and Calgary want all food inspections stopped and Listeria outbreaks to go unannounced so tainted meat causes needless death.
No one wants our parkland in the Rocky Mountains to become mined for rare earth metals.
The cost of providing federal services would not be picked up by Washington.
Pragmatically the vocal few who call for separation are not forward thinkers. They’re fond of looking at the short era of the National Energy Program and making unfounded claims like Washington would never treat us that way. Bluntly, they would do much worse.
There is legitimate reason to consider that using the resources of Alberta unwisely is against the interests of all Canadians. But, being part of Canada and insisting that Alberta can have less blocks to trade and investment in use of our resources needs to face national support. Resources from Alberta help guarantee energy that’s sufficient for needs of all Canadians. People from Alberta are quite well educated in trades and add to the productivity of Canada. Alberta is great and always has been part of what makes Canada great.
Those people who like to promote the voices of Alberta separatists are often financed by forces of dissent who want to weaken democracies. It’s what bots from Russia do to declare war on people living in free Western democracies. MAGA POTUS 47 style has nothing to offer the Canadians who live in Alberta.🇨🇦
Great article, but there are some very intrusive realities that the MAGA - teenagers haven't considered that are worth mentioning.
In order to separate from CANADA, there is a debt to be paid.
When you're a know-nothing teenager, and you think that it would be a great idea to be a grown-up with all of these juicy privileges---I've got news for you --- you don't get to keep mom and dad's house, or their appliances, or their motor vehicles. You have to get your own, and you have to pay for what you get by working at something.
Who do these pick-up driving, beer drinking, gun toting heroes think paid for the infrastructure for transportation, schools, power plants, hospitals, electrical grids, processing plants, pipelines, communications networks, and highways; just to mention a few.
In some ways we Canadians pay on the debt that we accrued to enjoy these things, and anyone that wants to use them needs to pay their fair share to continue to use them. YOU DON'T JUST GET TO WALK AWAY FROM THE PRIVILEGES OF BEING CANADIAN.
If you want out, you will need to BUY YOUR WAY OUT. You will need to figure out what you are willing to compensate other Canadians for their investment in your infrastructure, and pre-pay the tab.
I can tell you that there will be no free rides for lazy, delusional, oblivious teenagers.
Daniel Smith is too indulged and delusional to realize that it isn't a free ride. All Canadians have a say in whether Alberta can separate. And all Canadians have a say about how much it will cost Smith to pay up front for the privilege of using Canadian infrastructure.
Oh, and do not forget that the Quebec referendum went in the ditch for some of the same reasons mentioned above, including the fact that the "First Nations" (emphasis on "first") quickly decided that they would rather keep their lands in the Country called Canada.
Independent Alberta, just by the virtue of an empty pipe dream of the knuckle heads, not going to happen as long a Canadians have a say.
Too many hoops for the west coast States to hope to meet our requirements: most notably, surrender ALL your weapons, and we’ll decide which if any you’ll be allowed to have back.
But also, eliminating taxpayer funded religious schools, requiring additional vaccinations (as though they had been born & raised here), tax-deductible mortgage payments, etc., etc.
Alberta can have Wyoming, Idaho, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana and become a MAGA country. In exchange, the rest of the United States can become part of Canada.
I'm just an expat with no deep knowledge of how Canada's federal government works. But I seem to recall being told 20 years ago that there's a hard limit to how high you can go in a federal job here if you're not fully bilingual in French. Apparently there's a level (about what we'd call a GS-13 in the US -- director and above) beyond which you cannot be promoted.
If this is (still, or was ever) true, then that seems like a recipe for western alienation. Because there's no real French culture in the western provinces. The schools try hard to turn out bilingual students, but few really ever get fluent enough to function in complex environments. If you're gifted and ambitious, but cursed with nothing more than a few years of dodgy school French, there's no point in moving to Ottawa and going into government service, because you'll be artificially barred from ever rising into the serious decision-making jobs.
If I've been misinformed, and no such policy exists, I'd love to know that. And I understand how important such a rule might be in keeping Quebec happy. But if it does exist, it seems like this might be a good time to revisit that. Because until it changes, the west will be systematically excluded from participating in federal policy, leaving Canada to be ruled exclusively by Eastern interests. And yeah: over the course of decades, folks in the west are likely to notice, and resent, their lack of literal voice in national affairs -- a resentment that's easy to fan into authoritarian flames by political opportunists.
I worked for the federal government a few decades ago and yes, some knowledge of French was required for some jobs. I personally don’t have anything beyond high school French.
There are a number of French communities in the Prairie provinces - including AB. They do speak French as well as English. Yes, it's helpful to be bilingual when working for the Feds. Departments can/do send employees to French emersion if they choose. It is useful to speak two languages.
Alberta didn’t know it had significant oil reserves until the 50s. That’s when Americans who knew the value swooped in to run the oil companies that sprung up and brought with them their ‘me’ mentality rather than Canada’s ‘we’ mentality. The University of Calgary is so far right it may as well be the Chicago School of Economics. Albertans forget all about when Canadians across the west pitched in with their scare resources when their horses and cattle were starving in the 1990s. Alberta doesn’t acknowledge the federal assistance they receive for their pipelines. Alberta forgets it’s a part of a confederation. I was born there and lived there is my 20s but I would never live there under the UCP and Danielle Smith.
Do you have as many people living in their own little world as we have in the US? Don't the see the results in the US? Do they really think they would be better off? Is Alberta a bastion of white supremacy?
Another Scam There IS NO SEPARARTION, Dean take yaw Meds.........
CANADA opens the door to a deeper European defense and security partnership
THE bigger picture: Amid growing uncertainty around U.S. foreign policy, this agreement signals CANADA'S intent to diversify its alliances, reinforcing multilateral co-operation with European allies outside of the Trump Authoritarian American Regime!
Now TO IRAN:
THE Stupidest Present in History Trump assembles national security team amid threat of Iran retaliation
Qatar has temporarily closed its airspace as concerns grow of an Iranian attack on Al-Udeid Air Base, the largest U.S. military installation in the Middle East.
Iran launches missiles at U.S. military bases in the Middle East Iran launched multiple missiles toward U.S. bases in Qatar and Iraq in retaliation for the U.S. strike on its nuclear facilities this weekend.
Alberta can have Wyoming, Idaho, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana and become a MAGA country. In exchange, the rest of the United States can become part of Canada.
It is amazing the extent politicians will go to deflect the electorate, Danielle is the subject of an RCMP probe that could have her charged and the government forced to pay for the firing of the CEO of Alberta Health for speaking out about the corruption
And that’s why she’s willing to burn it all down — to save her criminal ass.
Sorry, Denial, your day in court(s) will come — you’re too young to die in office, actuarially speaking at least.
...'less than 1/4 of the province’s population thinks leaving Canada is a good idea'.
Yes, please leave. I'm pretty sure that 100% of Canadians would support them leaving Canada.
With only the clothes on their backs, and as many barrels of oil as they can carry (not roll).
“But Smith’s government has amplified the voices of radical groups like Take Back Alberta, appointed conspiracy theorists, and openly flirted with ideas straight out of the U.S. Republican fringe.”
And she’s funding their BS by dropping the # of signatures needed for a referendum question just conveniently below what they’ve already got lined up up.
Tens of millions of Alberta taxpayer dollars to be spent fanning the flames of these Moros’ fever dreams, in a futile effort, but also in a way that distracts from her ongoing malfeasance.
Does this sound like anyone?
(Rhymes with dump, chump, lump, stump, plump, or wetanyahu, even)
It is amazing the extent politicians will go to deflect the electorate, Danielle is the subject of an RCMP probe that could have her charged and the government forced to pay for the firing of the CEO of Alberta Health for speaking out about the corruption
Couple of questions from a typical American. The last I heard about separatism in Canada was about Quebec forming their own country. What happened to that movement, which seems to have quieted down the past few years? Is there still a Quebec separation movement and did the demands that Canada make French a co-language to English prompt the Albertans to want out?
Alberta can have Wyoming, Idaho, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana and become a MAGA country. In exchange, the rest of the United States can become part of Canada.
It’s quieter, now more of a stick that gets brandished every once in awhile, as they flex their muscles *within* 🇨🇦.
Trump + MapleMAGA/Conservative Party head moron Pierre “the paperboy” Poilievre (who lost his Ottawa seat this past election 😹 — now hoping to win a “safe” seat … in rural Alberta, of course) made the choice easier for Québécois this time too: the Bloc Québécois haemorrhaged as much to the Liberals as the lefty New Democrats.
They get it, it seems: Québec is better off in a Canada that they can work within, as Dean says.
I’m sure the traitorous 1/4 or fewer in Alberta are aggrieved by the “imposition” of French — but it’s not like they’re forced to engage I. French, ever, bar a bit in public schools (I assume).
Federal civil servants (most if not all) across the country are required to be or to become functionally bilingual — but again, it’s not like these bozos want to work for the feds, as they want out.
Really, it’s just another grievance, among a few loud & annoying/stubborn fools.
Quebec politicians bring up separation when they are in trouble in the polls. Something to get people riled about. People in the millennial age group and younger don’t really have the frame of reference that older people have in terms of leaving Canada, I don’t think it’s high on their list of priorities.
The Quebec separatists still exist but I think they’ve been somewhat diluted by new migrants, who are not usually separatists.
I am less familiar with Alberta. My daughter lives there and is completely opposed.
There is resentment about French among some of what I would call low class anglophones. It’s been around for years.
Thanks.
Basically it was the older Quebecois who wanted to separate. As the population grew and more younger people moved into Quebec politics Separation became less and less important, because those people recognized what Quebec would lose if they did separate. Neither the US or France were at all interested in helping or supporting them, so they would have to go it alone and this article has already mentioned the costs associated with separation. Plus more people realized that within Confederation they would prosper AND have a voice in the federal government.
While there is still a group in Quebec that are one trick ponies and bring up separating at every opportunity, it does not have wide support in the province now at all.
Good explanation.
My pleasure!
Most Albertans I know are damn proud of being Canadian. They don’t want a Premier, a religious leader, or a pissed off venting retired oil worker separating Alberta from the rest of Canada.
We don’t have a port to ship goods anywhere and POTUS 47 knows how to take and rape.
If we thought throwing our lot in with Americans would make our life better we better get ready for open carry laws on Alberta streets. Or having our young people drafted to fight in Iran.
Albertans would get similar status to Puerto Rico. Few people in larger towns that surround Edmonton and Calgary want all food inspections stopped and Listeria outbreaks to go unannounced so tainted meat causes needless death.
No one wants our parkland in the Rocky Mountains to become mined for rare earth metals.
The cost of providing federal services would not be picked up by Washington.
Pragmatically the vocal few who call for separation are not forward thinkers. They’re fond of looking at the short era of the National Energy Program and making unfounded claims like Washington would never treat us that way. Bluntly, they would do much worse.
There is legitimate reason to consider that using the resources of Alberta unwisely is against the interests of all Canadians. But, being part of Canada and insisting that Alberta can have less blocks to trade and investment in use of our resources needs to face national support. Resources from Alberta help guarantee energy that’s sufficient for needs of all Canadians. People from Alberta are quite well educated in trades and add to the productivity of Canada. Alberta is great and always has been part of what makes Canada great.
Those people who like to promote the voices of Alberta separatists are often financed by forces of dissent who want to weaken democracies. It’s what bots from Russia do to declare war on people living in free Western democracies. MAGA POTUS 47 style has nothing to offer the Canadians who live in Alberta.🇨🇦
Great article, but there are some very intrusive realities that the MAGA - teenagers haven't considered that are worth mentioning.
In order to separate from CANADA, there is a debt to be paid.
When you're a know-nothing teenager, and you think that it would be a great idea to be a grown-up with all of these juicy privileges---I've got news for you --- you don't get to keep mom and dad's house, or their appliances, or their motor vehicles. You have to get your own, and you have to pay for what you get by working at something.
Who do these pick-up driving, beer drinking, gun toting heroes think paid for the infrastructure for transportation, schools, power plants, hospitals, electrical grids, processing plants, pipelines, communications networks, and highways; just to mention a few.
In some ways we Canadians pay on the debt that we accrued to enjoy these things, and anyone that wants to use them needs to pay their fair share to continue to use them. YOU DON'T JUST GET TO WALK AWAY FROM THE PRIVILEGES OF BEING CANADIAN.
If you want out, you will need to BUY YOUR WAY OUT. You will need to figure out what you are willing to compensate other Canadians for their investment in your infrastructure, and pre-pay the tab.
I can tell you that there will be no free rides for lazy, delusional, oblivious teenagers.
Daniel Smith is too indulged and delusional to realize that it isn't a free ride. All Canadians have a say in whether Alberta can separate. And all Canadians have a say about how much it will cost Smith to pay up front for the privilege of using Canadian infrastructure.
Oh, and do not forget that the Quebec referendum went in the ditch for some of the same reasons mentioned above, including the fact that the "First Nations" (emphasis on "first") quickly decided that they would rather keep their lands in the Country called Canada.
Independent Alberta, just by the virtue of an empty pipe dream of the knuckle heads, not going to happen as long a Canadians have a say.
old......... H
Let the US have Alberta. Canada gets Washington, Oregon and California. If only.
No sale, thanks.
Too many hoops for the west coast States to hope to meet our requirements: most notably, surrender ALL your weapons, and we’ll decide which if any you’ll be allowed to have back.
But also, eliminating taxpayer funded religious schools, requiring additional vaccinations (as though they had been born & raised here), tax-deductible mortgage payments, etc., etc.
Alberta can have Wyoming, Idaho, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana and become a MAGA country. In exchange, the rest of the United States can become part of Canada.
I'm just an expat with no deep knowledge of how Canada's federal government works. But I seem to recall being told 20 years ago that there's a hard limit to how high you can go in a federal job here if you're not fully bilingual in French. Apparently there's a level (about what we'd call a GS-13 in the US -- director and above) beyond which you cannot be promoted.
If this is (still, or was ever) true, then that seems like a recipe for western alienation. Because there's no real French culture in the western provinces. The schools try hard to turn out bilingual students, but few really ever get fluent enough to function in complex environments. If you're gifted and ambitious, but cursed with nothing more than a few years of dodgy school French, there's no point in moving to Ottawa and going into government service, because you'll be artificially barred from ever rising into the serious decision-making jobs.
If I've been misinformed, and no such policy exists, I'd love to know that. And I understand how important such a rule might be in keeping Quebec happy. But if it does exist, it seems like this might be a good time to revisit that. Because until it changes, the west will be systematically excluded from participating in federal policy, leaving Canada to be ruled exclusively by Eastern interests. And yeah: over the course of decades, folks in the west are likely to notice, and resent, their lack of literal voice in national affairs -- a resentment that's easy to fan into authoritarian flames by political opportunists.
I worked for the federal government a few decades ago and yes, some knowledge of French was required for some jobs. I personally don’t have anything beyond high school French.
There are a number of French communities in the Prairie provinces - including AB. They do speak French as well as English. Yes, it's helpful to be bilingual when working for the Feds. Departments can/do send employees to French emersion if they choose. It is useful to speak two languages.
Alberta didn’t know it had significant oil reserves until the 50s. That’s when Americans who knew the value swooped in to run the oil companies that sprung up and brought with them their ‘me’ mentality rather than Canada’s ‘we’ mentality. The University of Calgary is so far right it may as well be the Chicago School of Economics. Albertans forget all about when Canadians across the west pitched in with their scare resources when their horses and cattle were starving in the 1990s. Alberta doesn’t acknowledge the federal assistance they receive for their pipelines. Alberta forgets it’s a part of a confederation. I was born there and lived there is my 20s but I would never live there under the UCP and Danielle Smith.
Do you have as many people living in their own little world as we have in the US? Don't the see the results in the US? Do they really think they would be better off? Is Alberta a bastion of white supremacy?
Another Scam There IS NO SEPARARTION, Dean take yaw Meds.........
CANADA opens the door to a deeper European defense and security partnership
THE bigger picture: Amid growing uncertainty around U.S. foreign policy, this agreement signals CANADA'S intent to diversify its alliances, reinforcing multilateral co-operation with European allies outside of the Trump Authoritarian American Regime!
Now TO IRAN:
THE Stupidest Present in History Trump assembles national security team amid threat of Iran retaliation
Qatar has temporarily closed its airspace as concerns grow of an Iranian attack on Al-Udeid Air Base, the largest U.S. military installation in the Middle East.
Iran launches missiles at U.S. military bases in the Middle East Iran launched multiple missiles toward U.S. bases in Qatar and Iraq in retaliation for the U.S. strike on its nuclear facilities this weekend.
I can't leave a comment. Don't know why.
The commenting system was acting up for me earlier today but seems OK now.
Alberta can have Wyoming, Idaho, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Louisiana and become a MAGA country. In exchange, the rest of the United States can become part of Canada.
Im from Texas— as you know “Secede“ is our state motto.
This is familiar. Quite.
Thanks for informing me —because if this shit keeps hitting the fan over here, I’m coming to you Dean
& Canadian friends
Great article…
“The Alberta independence movement is no longer a Canadian political conversation—it’s cosplay for a Republican civil war”.
Now THAT is a statement….!